Depressed Manic Pixie Dream Girls (Kristen Stewart and friends)

Rosey: 0:05

Hey guys, welcome to really important fictional things, the

Avery: 0:09

podcast where we over analyze all the fictional things that we love and some of them that we've never seen hot take,

Rosey: 0:18

or we overanalyze, we're analyzing the correct amount everyone else is under that's utilizing sectional

Avery: 0:24

SATs a very judgmental way to put it.

Rosey: 0:26

I tried to talk to my not tried to, I was talking to someone about a show. And they just kept like, I could tell I was going too far. Like, I was going too deep. And they were like, like wanting to be done. And I couldn't and I was like, All right, this way, the podcast. Yeah, exactly.

Avery: 0:43

Get it all out. Yeah, we really care about fictional things. So we're going to talk about them. And you're going to listen we just literally just recorded the last episode, because we're banking a bunch of them because Rosie's leaving Yeah, she's gone away for a little while. So I think we're on a roll.

Rosey: 1:14

Yeah. So here we go. So we're in we have enough that nothing has happened in the last few minutes. Yeah. What's been going on? I feel like I actually did something the other day. I went back into the world, though, which we didn't talk about the last time but I went to places like around people.

Avery: 1:30

Yeah, Rosie has been really good about not. Yeah, really good. are like really isolating hard to sleep. Because of your family. You have kids and you have you know, immunocompromised people. Yeah.

Rosey: 1:41

But I talked to those. My therapist advice was like, Well, have you talked to these people that you're like, putting up all these protecting, protecting? Like, are they doing Yeah, my mama had lunch inside a restaurant. I was like, Ah, so I've made some things up, as sometimes happens, as Rosie does sometimes. Anyway, talk to everyone. And they were all like, yeah, we agree. You should probably go talk to me get out the house. Sit in a condo by yourself. So I did. It was a little anticlimactic. Yeah. Like it was good. One of the ones that was like my friend's friend's birthday, so I didn't. It was very low stakes for me. Yeah. So that was kind of nice. Because I was like, if I chat with people, it's great. But if I don't like, no one's gonna notice if I'm being quiet,

Avery: 2:30

right? That's my favorite thing about going around strangers. No one knows who you are. It's a blank slate. Yes.

Rosey: 2:36

And I remember saying to someone, like, I gotta get back out there. And they were like, oh, like, you want to meet people? And it was like, not not, not with the mission of meeting people. Right? But if you do, that's great. But just like, those quick stranger interactions are so nice. So stay

Avery: 2:49

rejuvenated to just talk to a human and not be like, Am I doing it? Right? Yeah. And you and I are both very empathic. Feel our feelings and other people's and strangers. I'm like, I don't care for you.

Rosey: 3:01

Good luck to you. It's not my responsibility, and I didn't Good luck. Yeah. Arguably, no one's your responsibility. But I don't operate in the world with that feeling. Yeah, all the time. Anyway, so it's great. I also had an Espresso Martini for the first time ever. First time ever. Yeah.

Avery: 3:15

What did you think? I thought it was good. I also did a good one. It was a good one. Did you do dark or I let Giulia order it. Was it coffee cut? Like, like a latte colored or dark? Brown? Nice. So you didn't get Kahlua in it? No. Yes. Or Bailey's or whatever it is, which

Rosey: 3:33

is over by Emerson embossed. Oh, yeah, I know. And you walked in, and it was like, everything was velvet. Or bookshelves.

Avery: 3:41

Right? And it's like underground. And there's like a lot of marble. Yes. And part of the bookcases

Rosey: 3:45

open, and you have to pay extra and you can go to like the speakeasy and we didn't do but when I was speaking to one of the people I was with was like, it's just this on the other side of that wall. Like you're not getting anything different from

Avery: 3:58

literally that. I mean, that's the velvet rope thing. Yeah, yeah. Can I tell a random story about something that's happened to me recently, I flew to San Diego. I flew to California a couple of weeks ago to see my family and flying is still like, kind of new and I think new to most people. So there's like a like fence. COVID do you mean Yeah, exactly. So I feel like there's planes have been away for been around for a while. planes aren't new.

Rosey: 4:23

Since COVID, gotcha. That's culturally

Avery: 4:25

insensitive to everybody. Okay, I've been on a plane money. I'm an old hand at play fair. But I don't know. I feel like there's like a vibe with other passengers. Now. I agree. So we're in security and some guy was like, he ducked under. There was like the precheck line and it wasn't open yet, but he just ducked under it to meet his wife who was like standing further down. Yeah, he wasn't trying to do the pre check. He was just trying to get to his wife to one of the TSA agents walked all the way like, like, probably 50 feet all the way down to the end, looked at him and said, there's a reason why this is closed, please don't do that again. And he was like, what? And all of us in the line were like, well, what's going on like this chill, chill out. Then she opened it and just sort of walking away. And we were like, sorry, is it closed? Or is it open? Like you just said, there's a reason it's closed. And there were people that had TSA PreCheck. And we're like, Can we can we go? Like, we don't want to get yelled at like, what's going on? And then everybody just started laughing. It was really fun. Yeah, it was nice. Well, in

Rosey: 5:39

that sense, I get what you mean by like, it's like we're all in this together. Yeah, we're all going on this little adventure.

Avery: 5:45

Yeah. And the anxiety is just like, through the roof. Everybody was just like, we needed a little comedic relief.

Rosey: 5:52

I flew last year, so it was even a little more like oh my god, did you wear the plastic thing I tried and I had a full meltdown. I could not wear it. I felt it was claustrophobic, which I never really experienced that before. It was bizarre. I was like two masks are gonna have to do that. And I have glasses. I was like, I'm fine. The glasses are basically the exact same thing wear goggles. I would have preferred goggles. I did wear two masks and I did the thing where you like pull it down for half second and like shove a ton of food in your mouth and like pull it back up. Like I wouldn't I didn't like pull it down like to eat Yeah, I just kept like shoving power bars in my mouth. Anyway, okay, so this week, what we're jumping into is I read I signed back up to receive Entertainment Weekly the physical copy physical copy.

Avery: 6:42

There it is the Christmas pages.

Rosey: 6:44

It's it's it's like anything that like now like you see in magazines all the time. Yeah, Crate and Barrel won't stop. I didn't sign up for that. I

Avery: 6:53

don't know why they're keeping the amount of paper I get one stone this one.

Rosey: 6:57

I'm like I read every page. Obviously. I do recycle it but I keep them too. Yeah. Because some of them will they sent me I'm like I didn't want this don't give this to me. Please. I'm just gonna Yeah, I sometimes get it in the mailbox and then walk to the recycling. Like in the buildings recycle. I don't even bring it upstairs. So yeah, very excited to have Entertainment Weekly This

Avery: 7:18

one I've talked about it like multiples I'll you brought it up multiple times. Like how excited I am. It's changed my life.

Rosey: 7:25

A friend was lovely when I got the mail and this was in there and I made an audible like squealing sound like a little kid. I'm holding it right now like up to me.

Avery: 7:36

Like rubber. It looks like a Christmas present

Rosey: 7:39

gift.

Avery: 7:40

That's mine. No I met you just receive your Christmas present. You're like

Rosey: 7:45

I asked for it for my birthday for an Entertainment Weekly subscription. No one got it for me. So I got it for myself. Nice. Okay, so this one has Kristen Stewart on the cover, which is going to be sort of the main thing because spoiler or not spoiler announcement. They're making another Diana story.

Avery: 8:03

Diana Nice.

Rosey: 8:04

She's playing Princess Diana. Yeah. In the wild, new biopic, called

Avery: 8:16

biopic.

Rosey: 8:18

We call it a biopic. Further, why did my brain do that? So yeah, they're calling it Spencer, which I like it feels like it's more about her her. Yeah, but it sounds like he gets spooky. So we're gonna talk about that. And then I'm just gonna walk a few other things. So last of this, I handed out candy for my brother, which we said this already for Halloween. And what I did well, in between kids knocking on the door was read this and take notes. So my brother came home early and was like, so are you sitting here taking notes on a magazine? And I was like, Well, yeah, but it's for well, it's for my podcast. And he was like, so you're taking notes on a magazine? So yeah, that's what I did. And now we're gonna jump into

Avery: 9:05

it. Okay. We're talking about other Diana stuff, too.

Rosey: 9:09

Yeah, yeah, because they talked about it in the article. So I'm gonna go right to the article about Kristen Stewart. So no one has this. Maybe I'll take an awkward picture of my magazine. You should humor and put it on Instagram.

Avery: 9:20

But do you get a referral code for other people?

Rosey: 9:25

So no one can see this behavior right now. But like,

Avery: 9:28

look at her. Kristen Stewart is smoldering ryegrass wearing a knit blue bikini top like a badass

Rosey: 9:37

who doesn't want this outfit?

Avery: 9:38

She's she's really sexy.

Rosey: 9:41

She's so sexy. So I was not a twilight person which I just feel like I still think of Twilight when I think of right not like is my only point of reference is what comes up for me for her. And I never I think I saw that maybe the first one at some point, but I wasn't a twilight person. And I didn't really have opinions towards her but I feel like there was a lot of jokes about her a lot of memes memes about her. She got like the shit end of The Twilight stuff.

Avery: 10:05

Well, I don't think she liked the script. He did either. No, they were both like this. What are we doing?

Rosey: 10:11

Craft now and this thing and then they made the last one, two movies and they just couldn't escape. But they're all doing a lot of

Avery: 10:18

serious made a lot of money. My God good launch to the career, although she was in a panic room when she was like 13. And that was Yeah. Oh, good.

Rosey: 10:25

And then what I will she was in. They did a new Charlie's Angels. And it's good. It's an action movie with checks in it like it's fun. It's exactly just that. She is fucking hysterical movie and I like didn't know she was funny. And she's like, Oh my god, she had me dying. She got all those Zinger one liners. I feel like an action movie. There's like one character that just says like, well, this is ridiculous as they like scalability or something. Yeah,

Avery: 10:53

like Justin Long in the movie.

Rosey: 10:55

She was like that, except also then she like she seduces meant a lot. And then like she The Drew Barrymore update. Yeah. And then she'll like crack their neck with her thigh or something like swing herself up there. And then like, kill like, she's very fun. I guess I should find that fun, but they are bad men. It's fun. So the next big caption on this is Kristen Stewart's dog doesn't care about movie stars. But I think it's funny how often they celebrities talk about how they have kids or pets that don't care about that. They're famous, like they need Yeah, not care about that. They're famous, which kind of brings us to Diana, who like so in this article, they talk about the interviewer says like, you've had a similar experience to Diana to which person very quickly is like, no, no, I didn't. She was like I I experienced. I'm not gonna get the quote exactly right. Like she said, No, because it wasn't intrusive. And it wasn't violent, which for Diana, it was both of those things. But she said but I can identify with this fervent desire that people had to try to know me which I thought was an interesting way to phrase it so yeah, what we're really going to jump into his if there's another day anything coming out that she's going to be in there making it in a very, like they said, at one point, there's like a dream scape. And they kind of treat it like a Greek tragedy, which it sort of is but it's very focused on her. They listen to all the other actors are that are in it, which I don't we can say them later if we want. But I thought was really interesting. The screenplay is by Steven Knight who did Peaky Blinders. Oh, very different vibe to the other.

Avery: 12:34

Is Killian is killing it.

Rosey: 12:37

I don't know. I love them. I can't remember all the names. Okay, so Prince Charles is Jack Farthing. The devoted her devoted dresser. So I think that's literally the person who dresses her is Sally Hawkins from the shape of water. And the sympathetic chef is Mission Impossible villain, Sean Harris. William and Harry are Jack Nealon. And Freddie Spry, who I assume are the kids. Like, I don't know them. So I didn't know most of the I don't know those people. But yeah, so I think like, why is there so much Diana stuff? Avery, what's your take? What's your what do you think?

Avery: 13:13

Well, there's definitely well, first of all, I don't know that Diana has ever gone away.

Rosey: 13:18

No, they talked about that in this article. Yeah. Like, if anything, she's bigger now. Yeah. Well,

Avery: 13:21

that's what I was about to say, I don't think she's ever gone away. And I think the crown started and there's just, I don't know, everybody wants more of Diana, just even in death. She can't get any piece.

Rosey: 13:35

I know. That's sort of how I feel. I like this poor woman. And like,

Avery: 13:39

Diana, please bless. So we're about to talk to you for talking about you about you

Rosey: 13:44

about. I think it's also interesting, because I didn't so I've really only seen the crown. And then I did a very, very thorough one page report is in fourth grade. Fourth grade. So I think she was like, just not just I don't remember when she made it. When did she die? It was a 996 up I think it was 96 and

Avery: 14:07

fourth grade was 2000 or 2001.

Rosey: 14:10

Yeah, so So yeah, so she has like basically just died. Oh my God, I wish I could find that report. I'm sure it's like gold. I'm sure it's cold. I'm sure it's also like, this woman got to be a princess. And then there was a car accident. Like I think that was my take on like i don't think i You don't know about the insidious nature of like, what's happening in that house? I think I maybe knew she had an eating disorder. She like said that but very light, a very light and fluffy account of like,

Avery: 14:37

was it double spaced?

Rosey: 14:42

I will, yeah,

Avery: 14:43

I will share it. Take a picture of him put in the show notes.

Rosey: 14:48

But yeah, I think it's really interesting that like, like, why, like at the time and the crown, they talked about it and then there's been documentaries, like, why was everyone so obsessed with her? I mean, they're obsessed with the royal family and John don't like people are

Avery: 15:01

Yeah, so So let me go back and answer because I've been thinking about your question. Yeah, I think one of the reasons why there's been this like boom and Diana focus is because not to get too deep because we don't want to, we're trying to we're trying to keep it like, oh, how do you talk about?

Rosey: 15:16

Like, we're not gonna

Avery: 15:18

go we're not gonna we're not gonna deep dive culture. But I do think that one of the reasons why there is an explosion of interest is because we're talking about women's mental health and the way that we never have as a mainstream. And I think before, you know, before Diana was just like this beautiful, charismatic character caricature, basically. And people loved her because we I think she was an empath. Like she had like this incredible

Rosey: 15:43

connecting people, scenes of her in those crowds. She is connected. She's truly every single Yeah.

Avery: 15:49

And so I think in a selfish way, we all wanted to talk about Diana because we wanted that connection. But now there's like, Oh, she was actually a person. Let's think about what it was like for her.

Rosey: 16:00

And I think it was like, at the time it was, it was groundbreaking that she mentioned any kind of struggle at any point, right.

Avery: 16:07

Like, yeah, she talked about her eating disorder. She talked about our marriage. I think a little bit. Yeah, yeah. She's also vocal about the press. Yep. Yeah.

Rosey: 16:17

Yeah, she was and that was like in the 90s. weren't doing well. A few years later. Sorry. Now. Yeah. You're saying that women's mental health I'm like, yeah, and Brittany, Brittany's when thinking about? Yeah, because I remember at the time hearing that story, and we were what 1516 That she like shave attacked? Somebody shaved her head. Yeah. And then watching documentary. You're like, I can't believe you lasted this long before you hit somebody. Oh, see, one long before this. Hit some of my car. be hiding in a basement? Yeah,

Avery: 16:43

I shot my head years before that. Of course you stop looking at me

Rosey: 16:49

away. So similarly. Yeah, I think with her like she couldn't not go out like she couldn't get away. Right. So there's a line in this from Kristen Stewart in this article that specifically says like, they're, they did a scene where she's like being quote unquote difficult and doesn't want to like come to dinner. And it comes off really petty that like Diana would sometimes avoid the meal or not go to an event or whatever. And she was like, what if you're living in a world where you're so controlled? The small small things you have control over? You're gonna take? And if that's it, like I'm not coming down to dinner, you're not coming down to dinner? You don't get me for dinner, but also

Avery: 17:27

like, yes, yes. It's about control. But also, sometimes you just don't want to go to dinner. Like, this reminds me of when we're talking about made and how in that context, I'm gonna be like, No, you fucking have to go to dinner is like clearly abuse. Like, in this context. It's not it's just like, Oh, she's, you know, she's trying to like protest something. But like, maybe she was just tired.

Rosey: 17:52

And exhausting and sad life all those people. Yeah. And then, I mean, we talked I mean, this is in crowdfunding, when you're seeing crowd this is like, not a hot take. But like, the watching that show. You're just like, Oh, so you're all miserable? Yeah. And then the message seemed to be like, conform or die.

Avery: 18:10

Like the message of the family. Yes.

Rosey: 18:13

of the family. Yeah. The show what seemed to be like if you can escape you escape?

Avery: 18:17

Well, I think part of it is that the people didn't know anything else. Like this is how they had always been. So they're like, Oh, we've never felt feelings in our heart. Like my heart has always been cold.

Rosey: 18:29

And yeah, like, no, no, you're confused for boy.

Avery: 18:31

Well, and also the Queen sister. Yeah. Is to try to feel something out. Yeah. And it's just portrayed as mental illness and insanity. And once again, having feelings and a crazy world. Does that make you crazy?

Rosey: 18:42

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if you really think I mean, they don't show any scenes in the crowd. I wonder how often Diana ever interacted with the queen sister. If ever, I mean, they must have at some point.

Avery: 18:53

Met? Oh, by that time, it's like sister was like so out of it. Oh, that's true. And she also doubles down because remember, she decides not to marry that guy. And she makes all of her money? Well, because I'm thinking about and I

Rosey: 19:05

don't know enough to say things. Like say that. Well, I was just gonna say there's not fictional and I also have not even watched a documentary. You know, you watch the or the interview with Oprah.

Avery: 19:14

While assumptions. Yeah, I watched it when I

Rosey: 19:17

was right. So all I was gonna say is I don't know if this is true. For Meghan, I'm saying shit. But like Diana paved. I feel like she paved the way she Yes. And she saw Megan. I mean, we all did, but she was able to be like, well, I saw what happened if you don't walk away. Yeah. And I'm not doing that. I mean, Harry arguably did too. And he was like, if we gotta go, we gotta go. Well, I

Avery: 19:36

think that's the only reason why Harry was able to take his wife side is because he saw what happened to his mom. He didn't want that to happen again. And he thought like, obviously there's more to the world. Yeah, exactly. What

Rosey: 19:47

am I what am I sacrificing all of that or what am I risking yet for?

Avery: 19:50

Meanwhile, William is like, in.

Rosey: 19:54

He's in. Well, I mean, he's good. I mean, I don't know how long Oh, you know, soon ish, right? He's gonna be doing he's next.

Avery: 20:02

No, she's gonna live forever. I'm just kidding. I don't know. But I think we'll we'll fill up not his dad is not first in line or do we just think that the data is so old that he's dead? No, for quaint? Yeah. I'm Charles. Sorry, Charles. Charles is Williams dad. Oh, right. Yeah,

Rosey: 20:22

no, you're right. He will.

Avery: 20:23

So will he be first? You were they're just gonna skip it.

Rosey: 20:26

I've actually wondered about this. I can't imagine how skip him.

Avery: 20:30

He's not going to be a good I don't find him inspiring. thing.

Rosey: 20:34

I don't know. Why I agree. But I don't know what he's got to be in his 70s Yeah, he's got me. I know nothing about burying Camilla. The crown is what I know. Yeah. So for Diana, I know Mila situation. Yeah, so in this they have a becoming Diana thing and they show a bunch of other women playing Diana I mean, she's even just been in stuff like she's been represented. What others many times? Okay, you're gonna hear all the papers okay, hey, sailor.

Avery: 21:09

No idea what that is. Wait, is

Rosey: 21:11

this is that the actual name of the show? Or is this just talking about clothing items? That's what they're saying about the clothing I'm wearing a sailor ask outfit.

Avery: 21:18

Oh, God not on the water. That was another thing about Diana is that she really like she turned out when it came to fashion which was brand new in England. Yeah.

Rosey: 21:26

So this is about the clothes this is about Oscar winning costume designer Jacqueline Duran, who did little woman and atonement breaks down three of Spencer's most to

Avery: 21:36

die for style. That green dress and atonement is like,

Rosey: 21:40

yeah, and I like all the colors and Little Women. Yeah. Okay, so nevermind. That's not showing that's just about clothes, which is interesting, but not my not my thing.

Avery: 21:48

Are they based on real outfits that Diana wore? Yes. Oh, nice. We like historical accuracy. I think the other thing about Diana is like she really ate her whole existence in person who had like, threatened threatened the other people in the family. Because if they were that's a very good point. Yeah. Because if they were to accept her, they would have to acknowledge that the way that they live and operate is like kind of messed up.

Rosey: 22:14

It is a double down and they didn't want you and they also really well. I mean, this was they'd have to face their own sadness. Yes, yes. They didn't want to do and then this was again in the crown, but he was like, Prince Charles was like, Excuse me. They like you more than me. And I thought that was not okay. Yeah, like I so threatened. Yeah. And then some of the stuff she does do because remember when she dances for him, like that's his birth that

Avery: 22:39

is so funny. Watching it so selfish. It's like she Yeah, because she she's like a little child. She

Rosey: 22:47

wasn't she like 19

Avery: 22:48

She was really young. She was a very young the other reason why I think she's an empath is because I read somewhere that she was like, always cold. Yeah, like she was just like, always drained of energy. And she was like, everybody here is cold. And I'm physically freezing. Yeah,

Rosey: 23:02

I mean, I think that she Yeah, she literally was just carrying around everybody else's stuff. Like literally she makes you crazy. Yeah, it's too hard.

Avery: 23:10

If people want to know more about Diana really? You're wrong about which I also mentioned in the last episode, it's a podcast you're wrong about does multi part series. Yeah. And say that was like three or four right? Yeah, it's really good. I learned a lot about her that I had no idea. I might listen to that.

Rosey: 23:25

So So another thing that I think will be interesting, but like, I'm not gonna lie, I saw this and I was like, Okay, I'm kind of intrigued cuz it's Kristen Stewart. But I'm also a little bit uninterested in seeing like another Diana staying valid. Yeah, because it's a lot. I mean, I feel a certain way about someone recommended a book and it was a world war two book and I was like, I can't read it again. Think about that all the time. You did again I'm not saying it wasn't. I think we should all be conscious of foot like I got it.

Avery: 23:51

What about the fact that like I think it's like a billion Chinese people were were killed by Japan when they I'm I'm quoting that number wrong, but like a lot of people were were killed when Japan invaded them in the turn of the century and no one ever talks about that genocide. Yeah, well, I'm sure they do. Yeah, I haven't know.

Rosey: 24:12

The exact same story I don't want like belittle the writers writing all these stories, but like, it feels like it's the same angle. Yeah, yeah. So no,

Avery: 24:22

but that's one reason why they do it probably is because people know what they're getting out of it. It's like a it's like a for sure moneymaker.

Rosey: 24:27

I mean, it's the same like someone makes a vampire thing. And then here we go down a vampire wrote like, yeah, okay, so this quote is as much as the film's narrative tends less toward traditional biopic structures than what Stewart calls a distillation and a long tone poem. One that includes, among other things, a soup related hallucination and the ghost of Anne Boleyn, soup related good soup, but her performance is still rooted in the real and painful truth. So like, I might see it just because it's gonna be a different.

Avery: 24:57

I'll definitely see a classic

Rosey: 24:59

biopic It reminds me

Avery: 25:01

a little bit of that. The Marie Antoinette movie that Yes, what's your face did Chris

Rosey: 25:09

Kirsten dance first and on that one it wasn't it wasn't like a whole other like not dark and spooky like this It went like

Avery: 25:16

it was like, like me. Yeah, I can't think right now is like actual, like, current day popular music and Oh,

Rosey: 25:26

that's interesting.

Avery: 25:26

Yeah Wait, can I go back to the fact that I said a billion people were a billion people I think it was a million I

Rosey: 25:36

mean it is a real thing. Hyperbolic speech is a thing so I didn't hear that being like wow, she thinks a bill you know what I mean? Like I got that your point was like a lot of people that in this other tragedy that don't I'm

Avery: 25:46

glad I read that way, because it's not how I meant it. I just had a total blackout moment.

Rosey: 25:50

I think I just speak in hyperbole, the mountains in my real life, I'll say a thing and then be like, that's not true. I have to reel myself back. I just sometimes I know the numbers like 30 And I'm like, 43 No, yeah, I'm sorry. I do that too. I do that too. And sometimes I'm writing in my head so when I say things I say them in a way that I think will be anyway. Any other thoughts about Diana?

Avery: 26:14

Hmm, not really.

Rosey: 26:18

Okay, so in that case, they have a thing down here called in the magazine stellar steward beyond Twilight and this just like other things she's been in. Yeah, she's been in all of these, so I'm going to read them to you and tell me if you've seen them pentagram. Yeah, I'm obsessive

Avery: 26:31

fan. I also love Jodie Foster obsessed with Jodie Foster, Jodie Foster and

Rosey: 26:36

David Fincher

Avery: 26:37

pentagram. pentagram is really really good. Anyone that hasn't seen it, just watch it tense and ratcheting house trap. Oh, it's terrifying. So the plot is that a woman I don't remember what causes it but a woman has Jodie Foster has a panic room in her house. I don't remember why I can't remember if she has anxiety and on gets it or if she moves into a place that has a panic room. Anyway, of course, because there's panic room in her house. She ends things happen where she needs to utilize it. And Kristen Stewart is her 13 year old daughter and the two of them are like the main characters. So when I was seeing when I watched it, like in middle school, I was like, This is 2002. So yeah, I was like this is sick. It's two women just like talking to each other and surviving a panic room. It's

Rosey: 27:20

really good. Okay, into the wild.

Avery: 27:23

I have not been into the wild. I mean, either. But it has a Emile Hirsch, right? Yeah.

Rosey: 27:29

Sean Penn's true life tale of Sean Penn er, which is Emile Hirsch, on a vision quest in the Alaskan wilderness, and she's placed the fellow dreamer. They meet along the way. I know you've seen this Adventure Land. Yep. Jesse Eisenberg.

Avery: 27:44

She really first second got typecast in that like, sort of depressed version of manic pixie.

Rosey: 27:51

Like manic pixie dream girl but

Avery: 27:53

the sad the sad guy and she's in a depressed 100%

Rosey: 27:57

Okay, the runaways which I've not even heard of,

Avery: 28:00

oh, that's about the band. The Runaways Oh, yeah, I haven't seen it, but it's really good.

Rosey: 28:05

A swaggering mulleted Stewart pays it plays a young Joan Jett to Dakota Fanning Yes. was fairly very okay. We always are watching that. Okay, Clouds of Sils Maria, never than ever in either 2014 with Juliette Binoche, who's French. Still Alice, which I've heard about never seen with Julianne Moore.

Avery: 28:30

That's the extent of my thought Julianne

Rosey: 28:32

Moore won an Oscar for her role as a professor diagnosed with early onset Alzheimer's. And Stewart is stealthily lovely as a daughter who's already grieving her. I'm not gonna watch this so on So and then happiest season, which you told me about? We both watched that. I don't remember it. Maybe it was someone else. Oh, it was Julia. It came out in 2020. And it is. Stewart, okay. All Stewart's Abby. So that does that make sense? No. Okay, so, of course, as you were plays a character named Abby, and all Abby wants for Christmas as a girlfriend. You can tell her family. She's Oh, I

Avery: 29:06

have seen that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I saw that. sighs Yes.

Rosey: 29:09

And the charming mistletoe twist on Meet the Parents.

Avery: 29:12

Just that's fine. Yeah, it's a it's a it's a it's interesting holiday

Rosey: 29:17

movie. Yeah, it is meet the parents.

Avery: 29:21

Well, it would have been better if May, what's her name? From fielded? Yeah, if she was starting tonight. It would have been really good. I didn't love the other actress either. No, they didn't really. Aubrey Plaza was the best part of it. Every Palazzo

Rosey: 29:34

was really good buyer. Yeah. And then he had like 17 lines, but Jared. Jared lovey. No date, Dan. Dress like David his real name's Dan. Dan Levy. Jared that's where Dan Levy. There's a compilation on YouTube of Dan Levy saying like, just his lines in that movie. Yeah, he's.

Avery: 29:58

They didn't really connect in it though. Chris. Since the word I don't know, she doesn't do comedy for me. Well, that's why I liked her in

Rosey: 30:05

Charlie's Angels because so much is going on that her comedy could be zippy. It wasn't like, it was quick.

Avery: 30:11

She needs to be the comedic spice not like the comedic like bass. Oh,

Rosey: 30:15

yeah. Also, what's her name? Elizabeth Banks was in Charlie's Angels

Avery: 30:22

who I love. She's so good.

Rosey: 30:25

She produced and directed

Avery: 30:27

Yeah, nice. She just

Rosey: 30:30

blew of women and like that. I mean, I think they were the women who were like, because I'm thinking of like Reese Witherspoon. Like, there's a bunch of women from that time that it was like, All right. Yeah, we got. We got it. We're taking it back. We're taking it over.

Avery: 30:43

Yeah. Here when we get Pitch Perfect.

Rosey: 30:45

Yeah. Little Lies. Like we get this really good stuff or even just some other movie that like you can tell a woman was involved right at the table. Like we talked about a lot. Someone else at the table.

Avery: 30:56

I think that's why I like I've always liked Kristen Stewart, because she is just so present in everything she does. Even the depressed Manic Pixie Dream Girls like, you see, you see her? Even if she doesn't have a line? Yeah. And I think that that has always been really impactful because she just you can't erase her.

Rosey: 31:16

Yeah, yeah. I agree with that assessment. I'm gonna all watch some of these. I'll watch one of these movies. I'll watch the runaways that's the one I'll commit to.

Avery: 31:26

I might rewatch Panic Room. Like, I don't know.

Rosey: 31:31

I'm feeling stressful.

Avery: 31:33

It's stressful. It's very stressful.

Rosey: 31:36

We talked about this before we're like it's, I just want to feel it. I'll be fine. Yeah, but I don't want to. It's similar. Like, what is Alzheimer's when I feel this weird should in the back of my head. Like I should watch that. I know. Alzheimer's is I don't need to watch. Yeah. And right on that. Okay. Anything else about? Are we ready? I'm moving us along. Yeah, I'm

Avery: 31:58

gonna Tiana. Thanks for letting us talk about you, Diana. Yes. Like you rest in peace. Rest

Rosey: 32:02

in peace. Okay, so this is the fall Movie Preview issue. So I'm not going to read them off team because there's lots of them. But one of the first ones that a friend of ours still

Avery: 32:15

on the on Entertainment Weekly. Episode, we're not doing Netflix often. We're just just ew. Yeah,

Rosey: 32:22

we'll still have recommends from from Aw, yeah. We might watch a couple of trailers. So because I'm gonna play one forever, but

Avery: 32:30

we will bring the top 10 back in future episodes. Yeah. Not too many to give it time

Rosey: 32:35

to

Avery: 32:35

breathe, read, reshuffle.

Rosey: 32:40

Okay, dune thoughts, any thoughts?

Avery: 32:44

My thought is that every picture I see of Timothy shall almonds and Dias and Daya looks not having a good time. And Daya looks like very over Timothy shell, which I think is hilarious.

Rosey: 32:56

I don't disagree with that. I feel like I felt the same way. Whenever I saw her with Tom Holland. Who Oh, you know, dating. Oh, I think she don't like press.

Avery: 33:07

She's Yeah, she's just like,

Rosey: 33:09

listen, I just made the damn thing. And now you want me to go around talking about it. And I have to play these stupid games. Those interviews. Come up with those dumb Yeah. So I could also not be a fan of his I don't Yeah, arguing that point. But

Avery: 33:23

I could also see her being the type of person that to cope with the anxiety just shuts down her face.

Rosey: 33:30

Yeah, I agree. I like her, though. I don't feel like I've seen her. Like I What have you seen her image?

Avery: 33:36

She's in that HBO show. Yeah. I call for you. Euphoria. She's quite good. And that she plays? Well, I don't know if you would call her lesbian because she's dating. Yeah, she plays a queer character, which is cool.

Rosey: 33:48

I've seen her in Spider Man. She's

Avery: 33:50

inside. She was Disney. Obviously. That's how she started. Like, can't think of anything. Yes. Euphoria is like her star. I

Rosey: 33:58

make that search. I think you're right. So I'm excited for it to be in Dune. I like Timothy shallow may in Little Women.

Avery: 34:05

I mean, I love Timothy shell. Yeah. Well, I

Rosey: 34:08

guess I just mean, because I feel like I've said before that all sudden I see things just because of the actors, which is true. I don't know the person who's taught who saw this was like, It's epic. That's on a way to get me to see him.

Avery: 34:20

Yeah. Both people that I know that see it have seen it have really liked it

Rosey: 34:25

in theaters, or is it only on I think it's both? I think it's both. It's definitely a theater. It's feels like I should see it in the theater. It's

Avery: 34:32

a it's an IMAX. So if you wanted to go see an IMAX I would go with you. I think it would be worth it. To me the shell sorry. I'm

Rosey: 34:38

still taking a look at him. Look at him. Yeah. How was he so sexy. He's like a waif. He's barely there.

Avery: 34:47

Speaking of he's in a movie called I think the king and on Netflix. It's a Netflix movie called The King. It's good for sure. But he plays the up and coming King. And one of the scenes he has to have like a duel like a one on one battle. And he's like, it really explicitly shows you like how heavy the the armor is and how like how taxing it is even just swing a sword. And he went, I think he wins. Spoiler alert. I actually don't remember. But anyway, I'm watching him do this. And I'm like, your arm would just break. I don't I'm sorry. I can't suspend disbelief for this. Like, I think you would crack and

Rosey: 35:25

I really feel like if you just tapped him on the shoulder, you'd

Avery: 35:27

go down. Yeah, blow on him.

Rosey: 35:32

I think part of the thing would do is I also I'm going back to doom for a second. Yeah. What is it about?

Avery: 35:39

Okay, no, yes, I've read the book. So Dune is Oh, it's a book. Yeah, it's based on a series. Dune is set in like 2300 or something. And it's on a foreign planet, or planet that is not earth, that's all desert, but they have they grow this thing called spice, which is basically a, it's a drug, okay. And there's like a Galactic Empire or something. And they, they place these noble houses to run the colonies of their, like on different planets. And so it's about colonization. And the local people that live on this planet have been driven into the dunes like into the end, they have all these like adaptations. So they can even just live like they have a special suit that like collects all their moisture so they can live. And it's about this guy, this kid that Timothy Charlamagne plays becoming woke basically to the fact that he's a colonizer and then becoming one of the like, getting in with one of the little I think they're I don't know if tribe is the right word for them, but the local indigenous population, and it's like, trippy, and they have he has dreams where he dreams about the Zendaya character and like that's what brings him towards it. And it's there's like a ton of world building and politics and stuff. So I've heard that that part of it is like a little clunky

Rosey: 36:59

get to it in a theater. Yeah, I'll see it. There's no way I'm gonna like pick this.

Avery: 37:04

Sit now that you're out in the world. Now that would be really good. Also, I'd

Rosey: 37:08

wear a mask. Yeah, if you can't, but you gotta eat the popcorn. I'm getting well, we'll see. Also, if I'm

Avery: 37:16

with I've been to a couple movies and it is one of the things that I'm like I really concerts and movies.

Rosey: 37:21

I've been to movies a couple times to my brother because we have seen all the Marvel movies, which there's a couple in here coming out soon because now it's like it was such a well, it was sad for a lot of reasons that we were in lockdown and stopped but there was a pause on Marvel but now don't you worry because there's like a Marvel thing a month for like a year and yeah, Loki was so good. Lo que la. Wanda. So good. And Loki and then Falcon and Winter Soldier. Yeah. Which and then oh my god, Black Widow.

Avery: 37:54

I haven't seen like what Oh, yeah. Yep. Okay,

Rosey: 37:57

for a limited time, so. Okay. And then Shang chi.

Avery: 38:03

Oh, good. Yeah, I saw that. I really liked Blackwidow

Rosey: 38:07

but Shang chi was like, so good. And then they're under the new show with Hawkeye. Okay, and then guys the

Avery: 38:16

runner. Oh, okay. I was thinking of Bucky. I never want

Rosey: 38:22

to be Bucky would you like like a son? Jeremy Renner.

Avery: 38:26

He's just so weird as

Rosey: 38:28

such what? Why he's just like Jeremy runaway dude, like, I don't know what it

Avery: 38:32

is a poor man's Nathan Fillion. For me.

Rosey: 38:35

I think the story I like about him is that he didn't make it until he was like 40 Why

Avery: 38:41

he was a makeup artist. It's fun. Yeah. Fun. And he has the vibe that some people I think we've talked about before, which is that like I could walk away from this.

Rosey: 38:50

Yeah, yeah. Like it seems fun. Yeah. Anyway. And then there's gonna be another Doctor Strange. Anyway, this isn't I love doctors to do a different Marvel thing. But anyways, Okay, moving on from June. Okay. Have you seen or heard of last night and so I've heard of it, but I don't know what it is. I'm playing. So we're gonna do the trailer for last night. And so it has the woman from Queens Camden.

Avery: 39:15

Oh, the one that looks like an alien Yeah.

Rosey: 39:21

Last night Edgar Wright Yeah,

Avery: 39:24

he did Charlotte. Because it's kind of Prince Phillip isn't it? We can see people I see. A woman's having a vision of being in this world. The modern day woman is having this just dreams.

Rosey: 39:43

The 60s. Did you see

Avery: 39:49

she's having visions on weightless the motor last night.

Rosey: 39:53

Visions of a murderer from like decades ago.

Avery: 39:57

Just trying to like solve the murder.

Rosey: 40:00

And then we'll call that a black she's like it's a lot. I don't know.

Avery: 40:17

I mean, anything that Edgar Wright does, I will watch literally anything mainly in theater. We have to talk about spaced at some point. Oh, yeah. Oh, was that him? That was that was the first thing. I mean, he did like couple things before that, but that was like his big break.

Rosey: 40:29

I'll see this in a theater. Yeah, let's

Avery: 40:31

see this as well.

Rosey: 40:32

Okay, so that's that one. Yeah, there's a whole interview here that we won't read. But it's the two women like the interviews with the two women who were in it.

Avery: 40:41

It looks like really pretty like the costumes are cool.

Rosey: 40:44

Very pretty. Very pink, like very sharp pink.

Avery: 40:47

Yeah, he was attached to Ant Man for a while and he I mean, everything and he did. Scott Pilgrim vs. the World. So very into like that common color color. Yeah. Okay, cool. So that's one. Very funny so I wonder if there's humor in this because generally light from that there was no jokes.

Rosey: 41:05

That was very serious. Lots of intense eyeliner as well. Oh, yeah. Okay, my hair the pages. So satisfying. Okay, yeah, there's a new Wes Anderson movie. Are you with him?

Avery: 41:17

Yes. And I saw the this is also Timothy Shalini. And I saw the commercial for the trailer for it and I'm very into it.

Rosey: 41:24

I pick and choose my Wes Anderson films. I feel like hasn't been a hit lately. For me. Yeah. One of my favorite ones was Darjeeling Limited. See, I hated that. A lot of people didn't like that one. Okay, like, the ones I like are the ones that are slightly less. I want to use the word cerebral or something like they're like a little more mainstream. Does that

Avery: 41:47

is so funny to me because I would say Darjeeling Limited is one of the least mainstream ones. Interesting. Okay. I don't know if because it's not nothing happened. It's just like, I don't know why, like some of it's really funny. I mean, I'm not I'm not sure. I

Rosey: 41:59

don't feel ashamed. I think okay, well, I'm curious if you have this experience or some. I think it happened to me more of movies and other things. But there's an experience around the movie. Yeah. In New York, and got to like spend the night with him. And he lived in Astoria. And we like got burritos delivered, which was mind boggling to me because you don't do that in the town. We grew up or you think about this. For

Avery: 42:27

tea. Oh, okay. All right. This is making more sense to me. It's like a seminar. Yeah. Yeah.

Rosey: 42:32

It was like a seminal moment. And we like, took a trolley and like, ate the burritos. And then we like bought candy, some rolls and snuck it in which also felt like, these are not like rule breaker things that they felt like, well, and it was like, like my brother created an experience for me. And then I felt very cool going to a Wes Anderson movie in New York. Like, so. I think that's part of it. Yeah. Like, I don't know if I saw it again. But I like would it be nostalgic? Or would I be like, What the fuck? Why?

Avery: 42:59

That's very cool. I like that a lot. So

Rosey: 43:01

that's definitely part of it. Does it have to do with movies? Yeah, make what can happen to bad experiences like you were having a bad day. So you hate that movie that you see again later? And you're like, oh, that's fine. Yeah, I

Avery: 43:11

can't I can't think of that one. But Nick and Norah's Infinite Playlist was similar to that I took the train, I think it was like 14, and I took the train into the city by myself who bought a burrito below go burrito Saturday part of these movies, they just automatically make a movie Excellent. And went by myself. And it was kind of now I just love being alone. But it was like the time that I realized that I could have a good time on my own.

Rosey: 43:34

Also going to movies alone, folks, if you haven't done this is good. It's great. I saw I like seeing them with people too.

Avery: 43:42

But yeah, even when it's not, even when it's like hard, like, emotional, like I didn't see my family for Thanksgiving once and I took myself to moonlight. And I just like sat on the street and cried. But like it was

Rosey: 43:57

like good. Yeah. Good version. Yeah, yeah. No, I feel Yeah. Anyway, so yeah, Fred, the French dispatch. I think it's a longer title on it, cut it down. But

Avery: 44:07

it's like I think an anthology film like It's like different writers telling their stories. Interesting.

Rosey: 44:12

I'll see it the way they did this layout on the page is very fun, too, because it's a key. So there's a key of all of his movies with a different color. And then they're showing like because he plays with the same plays with he plays with the same actors a lot. Yeah, like Bill Murray and Owen Wilson are at the top of just like being in the most

Avery: 44:29

I love Owen Wilson national treasure. Me too.

Rosey: 44:32

I feel the same way. Jason Schwartzman is also in a lot.

Avery: 44:35

Yeah. And this is Timothy Shama and show. How do you surname Shogun?

Rosey: 44:40

I don't know. Shows ya?

Avery: 44:42

She was I don't know she was on it, too. But she was in Little Women. So now Timothy shallow man shows. What's your name? I've been in a lot of is that it? No, no.

Rosey: 44:51

How do you say it? We don't know, throwers or

Avery: 44:55

Yeah. They've been in a lot of stuff together, which I think is fun. They have good chemistry.

Rosey: 44:59

I like that. I like when you see people's names. Yeah. Tilda Swinton Edward Norton, it's like crazy. Okay, so that's why

Avery: 45:05

Edward aren't until descent and my favorite I think my favorite other than the Royal Tenenbaums is probably like my actual favorite. But I also really loved what was it called Midnight? Something like kingdom? Yeah, that one actually, we're all kind of on rise kingdom, Moonrise Kingdom. So we're all kind of similar to your Darjeeling Limited is like very nostalgic for me, but Moonrise Kingdom is like probably my favorite, most watchable to actually

Rosey: 45:41

see that one. I show it's really good. The Darjeeling Limited I'm seeing now because it was right in front of me came out in 2007. So I was 16. So that like make that experience makes a lot

Avery: 45:49

of sense. Yeah. It was one of the first like grown ups. Yeah,

Rosey: 45:53

I get it

Avery: 45:53

now. Yeah. And

Rosey: 45:54

also, when I was seeing a movie that wasn't a rom com, I felt just very cultured, because basically, all I watched was Roman. Speaking up, so this is so we're moving on. We're not gonna talk about each of these. This is for the Eternals which I have not much to say actually, it's Marvel, but I don't really know anything about I don't

Avery: 46:10

have no interest in I'm like, please don't I feel like this is blowing apart the Marvel Universe and I

Rosey: 46:14

feel really similarly but I know I'll see it because I'm like, Yeah, but yeah, but the picture is a Richard Madden and Gemma Chan who are in it, and they look, this looks like a rom com post.

Avery: 46:25

Yeah, it does. It's got the white background and they're just looking straight on.

Rosey: 46:28

The guy's just crossing his arms and she's standing behind him with her hands on her shoulder. Yeah, what's happening here? Yeah, okay, well, we have nothing to say about that. Okay, there's more Ghostbusters. What? I don't care.

Avery: 46:40

Flip it flip the page.

Rosey: 46:42

Another biopic. Will Smith is grilled by the actresses who play Venus and Serena Williams in his tennis family biopic.

Avery: 46:53

Oh, cool. Why are they making a biopic about Venus and Serena but about a man?

Rosey: 46:59

Are they that is a really good question. Well, hang on,

Avery: 47:02

probably because well, Smith, isn't it? Yeah, but

Rosey: 47:05

it also is talking about King Richard like is that as he also is there another King Richard saying?

Avery: 47:11

Is he like his own person? Like

Rosey: 47:13

Will Smith who has plenty of experience raising talented kids has found himself a pair of young Queens for King Richard the two time Oscar nominee is Richard Williams, the determined father of tennis legends, Venus and Serena. Oh, that's his name. Oh my god. So they're literally making a movie about the dad. Yeah.

Avery: 47:32

Is his name actually Kang in real life?

Rosey: 47:35

No, his name is Richard Williams. So

Avery: 47:36

they're so he's literally lording over these two daughters that are fame. I don't like this word. I don't know anything about it, but I don't like it.

Rosey: 47:45

Okay, moving on House of Gucci they're gonna make with Lady Gaga.

Avery: 47:49

I'm excited about this one. I really liked the Lena. Okay, so remember, LBJ versus the people. Yes. That's a show somewhere in American Horror Story called American Crime Story. So he kept making them. He did.

Rosey: 48:04

Yeah, they're doing Monica Lewinsky right now.

Avery: 48:06

Oh, that's cool. That'll be good. It'd be. That'll be really good. He did one about the murder of Versace. Oh, and with Darren Criss. During Christmas.

Rosey: 48:16

I don't see it. I saw that

Avery: 48:18

I know of it. I can only make it halfway through. But it was one of those things where I was like, I've never understood fashion and like now I get fashion and I like that's fine. Yeah. And I went in wanting to YouTube and I like watch like full runway shows that are like an hour long. Like it got like, brilliant. It's kind of what you said about sports where you think sports is boring. But if you knew the background to it, you would like it. Yeah, some kind of an interest Ridley Scott too.

Rosey: 48:41

That's doing how that's very cool. I like that. I'm noticing as we Okay, so my mom will listen to our first episode. I don't know if she's still here. If you are Hi, mom. Thanks for listening. But she was like some of the stuff you too said. I was just like, What are you talking about? And I just thought that when I was like well Ridley Scott's part of it and you're like, that's cool. I

Avery: 48:59

almost said he did alien and then I think was he involved in scream? I think so. Yeah, he's like an original good

Rosey: 49:09

some of that if you looked him up on IMDb or something you would be like Oh, I know most of the stuff and he's also

Avery: 49:15

produced a lot of really good stuff he like pulls other people up

Rosey: 49:18

Yeah. Okay, this I'm only bringing up because she had to like get in think

Avery: 49:23

he did alien. I don't know. I'm tired. I

Rosey: 49:25

don't know. So there's Halle Berry. Has she like been anything lately?

Avery: 49:31

I don't know. But I've never connected with Halle may have

Rosey: 49:33

i But she's anyway. Lin Manuel Miranda is directing another musical tick tick. Boom. Cool. I watched the preview and was stressed a F and will probably not see it but it has Andrew Garfield and Vanessa Hudgens Oh, I

Avery: 49:49

like Andrew Garfield looks at about can you tell us Oh, sorry. Yeah,

Rosey: 49:52

I'm trying to see what's the quickest. Does it have a description here? I'm just gonna read it because then I can Oh, yeah, okay. Lin Manuel Miranda first saw Larson is rent like the movie on a 17th birthday. That was the year I went from just liking musicals to having the audacity to think I could write one. So Jonathan Larson, who I didn't know until the second Did you know him, okay. I had AIDS

Avery: 50:18

and he created the article. I think he died during the run. I mean, he definitely did. It was

Rosey: 50:25

like two artists, both us contemporary influences to create Pulitzer Prize winning hits. Although Larson who died in 1996 35 tragically never got to see success. Now their lives are intersecting once again as the Hamilton creator brings Larson's autobiographical musical tick tick box on the screen. So Andrew Garvey, so he wrote Larsen, Larsen, rotech tech boom, and then well as Les lmm repurposing in a movie, a movie. Yes. So Andrew Clark, I just repeated everything. Yeah, but I was confusing, because if you read this whole, it's four paragraphs, and I was trying to distill it, but it wasn't quite working anyway. Andrew Garfield also was 38. Who knew?

Avery: 51:06

Who is he dating? He's dating someone that I liked. He was with Emma Stone for a while,

Rosey: 51:09

but I think he broke. I don't know who's worth now. Anyway, so it looked it looked into I mean, now that I know it's his autobiography. It is intense.

Avery: 51:21

So we'll see. I'll probably see that.

Rosey: 51:24

Yeah. Similarly, a movie I'd see and probably like in the theater more than in my on my couch.

Avery: 51:31

Number one movie pass was a thing for like a hot second, and then they went bankrupt, because who the fuck thought that was going to be a real thing. I saw so many movies. Yes. And it was great. I loved all of them when I saw them in the theater. If I didn't like went to I would leave. Like yeah,

Rosey: 51:46

yeah, you felt less like God. I paid for this. I gotta hang.

Avery: 51:49

Yeah, like one Valentine's Day, my boyfriend at the time and I bought ticket. We went and saw 50 shades grayer, or whatever. The second was, we literally, we left after 15 minutes. We're like, no, yeah, sometimes it's just no. We also got burritos to that and they couldn't even save it.

Rosey: 52:08

There was only one movie I wanted to leave in the middle of it. I didn't actually leave it was so crowded. And I was in the middle and I felt so panicked. It was flight.

Avery: 52:16

Is that Yeah, and he goes upside down.

Rosey: 52:20

Yeah, part that I have a hard time watching addicts on screen. It was like he got sober and you were like you're not gonna stay I want to go I had it. Yeah, it was that whole thing? The tension. Yeah, the build up. It's well because in real life what gets me is the anticipation like that. And yeah, the anxiety Yeah, not like once the things going on. I'm just like, alright, let's, let's deal.

Avery: 52:41

I know, anytime there's a disaster. I'm like, What a relief.

Rosey: 52:45

I can now go into cash. I can handle this. I had a friend once, who literally was like, Oh, I'm terrible in a crisis. Don't call me and I was like, I've got the person I call on a great I call Avery. She rushes around a doctor's office brings arrive having trouble with figuring on orthodontia thing and I was telling my dad he was like, just tell Abraham find out what

Avery: 53:08

I can handle. Wait, don't leave. Because I like this guy.

Rosey: 53:12

So the harder they fall, Jonathan majors leads a killer ensemble of gunslinging outlaws and a stylish action packed Western love him

Avery: 53:20

and other brown soft in person. Brown his eyes are

Rosey: 53:25

John. Yeah, Jonathan majors Aegis Elba so as he beats I so apologetic if that's if it's I don't know how to pronounce that. And then Regina King. Yeah. Sounds good. This is gonna sound whatever. And I'm gonna ask the question. I'm not a western movie watcher. Typically, they seem primarily to be black. Is that unusual? Yeah. I think it's probably out there because of the point. Okay. Yeah,

Avery: 53:50

he was. He was in the HBO show.

Rosey: 53:53

I recognize him.

Avery: 53:54

What is the show? I don't remember what the name of it was. But it was like a classic science fiction writer and they repurposed it to be a historical fiction show with the about like a black community.

Rosey: 54:10

And Lovecraft county Lovecraft boundary love,

Avery: 54:13

love cross country. Yeah. So they did that. And that was like, you know, including black people in the narrative of science fiction. And it sounds like this is including white people in westerns, which is a little weird that they're typecasting him in like this kind of

Rosey: 54:25

joke. Yeah, or part of it? What do you mean? Like he could be working with the directors or the you know that I

Avery: 54:31

mean, it's still gonna be good. I'm not saying anything negative. I

Rosey: 54:34

just was I just read an article in here about insecure and they were talking about how, like, both ESA and the creator whose name is or was the show runner whose name is escaping me. Part of their they intention. They're very intentionally trying to just keep bringing the same actors around, because they're like a lot of black. Specifically, in this case, black actors can't get jobs. So they keep trying to give them new jobs or give people their break so they can break in and then get other parts. So it's like yeah, so intentionally done that they're trying to like give people like so I just wonder if he's part of that

Avery: 55:08

he probably is. And the other cool thing about Lovecraft tree and it sounds like this is that a big thing that it was doing was just showing black people in roles that like they don't get cast in like exactly like you said love that.

Rosey: 55:21

Very, very cool. And I've only seen a handful of Westerns but okay, and then the next one is read notice it says director Ronson Marshall Thurber.

Avery: 55:31

Sorry also love graph country is very good on its own I've heard it's very not just oh yeah. Oh, yeah. I just want to make a note of that that it's very good content noted.

Rosey: 55:41

I feel the same way when I talk about insecure and I mentioned we're trying to get it right we love we love all of this stuff. All the stuff. Okay, read notice is Director Ronson Marshall Thurber breaks down and ageless brawl between Dwayne Johnson Ryan Reynolds and gal Godot and his new action film so that's what the that's meaning like, runs Marshalls talking about it. In this scene, I don't know. I mean, I like all those people. But yeah, this isn't I'm moving on. I

Avery: 56:08

love action movie usually.

Rosey: 56:11

Speaking of action movies, the matrix there's going to be a fourth one.

Avery: 56:16

Is it a reboot? Or is it chronologic with the other matrix?

Rosey: 56:20

The fourth Matrix movie that makes sense. Yeah.

Avery: 56:25

So matrix went off the rails.

Rosey: 56:29

Again, pronunciation yah, yah, yah. I don't know. Okay, why Abdul? Mateen Yeah, why? Ah, ya Abdul Mateen The second is Morpheus in the fourth Matrix movie. I also have not seen any matrix movies. That seems important because it's in the like, tagline here.

Avery: 56:46

Yeah, Morpheus is an original character. So it's like they're replacing the original actor.

Rosey: 56:52

Okay, got it. If it's you in here it says it's not really my job to try to duplicate or challenge the history of this role. He's very if anything, I step into it because I appreciate that history. So could be interesting if you are into the matrix. West Side Story. Don't care. Don't care. Yeah. Steven Spielberg is doing it so people will be excited about that. But whatever moving along. Okay, we're not gonna go through all these Spider Man's gonna be great if you're into Marvel that's coming out. And then there was something else so I'm skipping as long as there's a lot of movies, folks, a lot of movies if you want to jump into movies this fall, making a sequel to sing to for all you folks with kids out there. Your kids gonna stop saying? Yeah, if they're, if they don't want to watch any more Coco melon, but you want something else for them. I did watch sing also with children. I asked her what it was about afterward, and she couldn't explain anything. She just was like there was a gorilla. Last one. This is the shrink next door all I know it's based on a true story. And I know that it is Paul Rudd playing the shrink and Will Ferrell playing the patient

Avery: 58:06

based on a true story. Was there a book or something or it's just like, Okay. What brings you here?

Unknown: 58:14

I don't know. Phyllis may become my sister. She must be very

Rosey: 58:19

British. Yeah, they both

Unknown: 58:26

feel good. It feels strong, grown man lighting. Curtains, I think I can help you. The first thing I'm going to do is completely unethical. They are not

Avery: 58:38

British, you know.

Rosey: 58:40

But their accent. They have different accents.

Unknown: 58:44

There's no shame and feeling pain. Marty, the ruler of your own domain seems to run like a fabric 9am Shocked. I'm trying to be more of my own domain. therapy's really working out huh.

Rosey: 58:58

I think they're trying to do is New York accent Yeah, it's like

Unknown: 59:02

life will turn you into the mayor hanging

Rosey: 59:05

out though.

Avery: 59:07

You're not supposed to do that. I think the point Yeah.

Unknown: 59:12

What is he doing here? Helping us. What do you think

Avery: 59:15

so much fun. Is that? Why are you he's changed my life. He's changed me. You clearly have a good eye. The other one is a good eye. Ice to ice.

Unknown: 59:31

The appropriate quota of ocular spheres. Why are we running? I don't know rod you are growing. Is your psychologist, psychiatrist, business model? Best friend. He just has no boundaries and I don't trust him out of your life. She's the only family. Without trust we have nothing I trust you can do We think this is my decision he's living in your head. I am going to take care of everything

Rosey: 1:00:14

feels good, doesn't it it's on apple plus TV. And it looks like it is just showing all the things you shouldn't do as a shrink or let a shrink due to you yeah, I also even the use of the word shrink if I don't really hear that in real

Avery: 1:00:38

terms. And now this is like ethically everything awful.

Rosey: 1:00:42

Yeah, Lee about therapy. So I don't know if I want to

Avery: 1:00:45

I will definitely see it. I mean, I have to Yeah, yeah.

Rosey: 1:00:49

Okay, well, it's available now. No, it's not November 12. On Apple Paul read

Avery: 1:00:54

trying to do a Syria Well, this is actually probably really good because it started started off really goofy and light and then became scary.

Rosey: 1:01:00

Yeah. Also, not only is he seemingly playing well, he's the manipulator or the he's one of the powers manipulating somebody. So, but he also, he's never plays anyone unlikable? I feel like a you normally like Paul Rudd, like watching him be unlikable is interesting.

Avery: 1:01:16

He's in a movie that was directed by the guy who didn't Moon David Bowie's son and I don't really know that whatever he plays like a tough guy who like murders people and stuff similar to his weird accent Yes. When he's trying to do like a tough guy accent it's not believable. Like you're just smart. I can't hold a smile I look at you curious what you'll think of that. Like probably part of his like ability to get into someone's Yeah, that's true.

Rosey: 1:01:45

He's not going to be like crit like Yeah, I mean, he's a minute. Right? So when I'm trying to come up with a manipulator abuser, I don't know those people usually are charming a lot sociopathic people.

Avery: 1:01:56

I'm pretty sure Paul Rudd could manipulate I'm positive power. I'd come manipulate me. Oh, yes. Like just keep looking at me. Well, the

Rosey: 1:02:03

one other person who I feel well, not one other person in the morning show. The show the morning show. That's also an apple plus. Steve Carell. His character is, like villainous, and I was I like, I my brain was trying to like fight it. Yeah. Which was interesting. That is

Avery: 1:02:22

weird. Is he similarly manipulative?

Rosey: 1:02:24

He is sexually assaulting women, but doesn't think what he's doing is sexual assault like so they're playing him that way intentionally. They

Avery: 1:02:32

know. Now the guy that did it in real life, Matt Lauer?

Rosey: 1:02:36

Yeah, it was like, I don't know. Take you take your pick. But yeah, I think it's a Matt Lauer story because it's a morning show. And it's that he's like, it was consensual. No one ever said like, What are you talking about? I didn't. But it was just interesting, because he's usually like, Well, Jennifer Aniston similarly, I usually find quite well. Maybe because she's a woman, but not quite in the same way. But similarly, she's normally like, charming or goofy. And and this feels like your friend. Yeah, like your friend. And in this she, they are the host, so she's sort of complicit. Like she kind of knows he's doing some cool stuff.

Avery: 1:03:09

Did you like bombshell? Yes. Yeah. Love loved. Really like

Rosey: 1:03:13

I'm really liking the morning show. I haven't watched the second season yet, but I liked bombshell more than the morning show. So that's all we got just on Entertainment Weekly.

Avery: 1:03:23

Yeah, this is a long episode.

Rosey: 1:03:26

It's basically just a long episode of recommend. Yeah. Well, the funniest thing is I don't know anyone who knows Entertainment Weekly at the back they have like a bullseye thing. Yeah. And they put what they like in the middle and then things go further out. So they were not impressed with Chucky happening yet again. Like another check. I have no idea that was even happened. Yeah. Only murders in the building. They really liked Selena Gomez coat. That's her little quickie line on here. Nothing else of No, but I feel like we should make her own bullseye.

Avery: 1:03:54

I agree. Oh, no, that. Well, that's it.

Rosey: 1:03:57

Thanks for listening.

Avery: 1:03:58

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Rosey: 1:04:10

And our blogs are on medium and all the show notes for this. Yeah. Which we also linked to in the description. Yeah, easy access. We're trying to make ourselves easily accessible to all.

Avery: 1:04:24

Okay, well, thanks, guys. Bye.